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Mitt Romney and Moral Imagination

The center of a Christian moral framework is to do unto others as you would have them do unto you. In order to maintain just legal structures it is necessary for policy makers to ask themselves how they would want to be treated by the law. This is why it always is disturbing when you hear of politicians who create laws that don’t apply to themselves or start wars that their children won’t be fighting in.

In 1884, Romney’s great-grandfather, Miles Parker Romney, fled to Mexico from Utah. Miles Parker Romney was a practicing polygamist and he wanted to protect his family from persecution. Mitt Romney’s father was born in Mexico, his family returned to the United States and took up residence in Michigan.

While Romney wouldn’t agree with his ancestor’s practice of polygamy, I am sure he understands his great-grandfather’s desire to do what he thought best for his family. Luckily for Miles Parker Romney, there was a country that allowed his family to settle and try and find a better life.

What is unfortunate is that candidate Romney doesn't seem to have that same kind of empathy for families today who are also in difficult positions.

Families living in our country who are undocumented are often economic refugees. Rural farms in Mexico have long been in a downward spiral as they are unable to keep up with heavily subsidized products from other markets. This has left farmers desperate to feed their families.

To think about immigration in a Christian framework means starting with the right questions. If my family was being persecuted and were in danger because of their religious beliefs, how would I want to be treated? If my family was forced out of business and I could no longer feed my family, how would I want to be treated?

From there, much more complicated policy discussions must be had. But, the starting framework is clear. What if the tables were turned?

Would Mitt Romney want a presidential candidate in Mexico to talk about his family the way he has talked about immigrants in this country? Would he have wanted Mexico to turn his family away in the first place and tell them to wait another 10 years?

Tim King is Communications Director for Sojourners. Follow Tim on Twitter @TMKing.

 

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by: thevanished

01-12-2012 @ 11:20pm

The issue of immigration in America has nothing to do with religious persecution, so this piece is neither here nor there. We cannot have an open borders policy. We simply can't afford one, de jure or de facto.

by: thevanished

01-12-2012 @ 11:20pm

The issue of immigration in America has nothing to do with religious persecution, so this piece is neither here nor there. We cannot have an open borders policy. We simply can't afford one, de jure or de facto.

by: charliek2

01-13-2012 @ 9:38am
in reply to: thevanished

I don't read Tim asking for open borders. But this piece is relevant. It has to do with empathy. It has to do with economic considerations of hunger. It cannot be whiffed off quite so easily as the vanished whiffs it.

by: thevanished

01-13-2012 @ 4:32pm
in reply to: charliek2

You either believe deporting illegal aliens is right, or you believe it's wrong. If that latter, you support open borders. Tim whiffs it off by shrouding the issue in the language of compassion.

 

 

by: kansasmennonite

01-13-2012 @ 7:38pm
in reply to: thevanished

What's the greatest and 2nd greatest commandment in the Bible?

by: Sam

01-14-2012 @ 10:34am
in reply to: kansasmennonite

Loving your neighbor as yourself doesn't mean that  a nation must have an open border policy or that believers must advocate for one.  Loving your neighbor also doesn't mean turning a blind eye when they break the law.

by: kansasmennonite

01-14-2012 @ 3:24pm
in reply to: Sam

Loving our enemies does mean to have just laws in place. Are our immigration laws just? That's the question you totally blew off.

by: Sam

01-14-2012 @ 6:18pm
in reply to: kansasmennonite

My only problem with our immigration laws is that they aren't strict enough.  They seem plenty just to me.

by: kansasmennonite

01-14-2012 @ 9:45pm
in reply to: Sam

Yes, of course you do!!!

by: Sam

01-15-2012 @ 1:29am
in reply to: kansasmennonite

Of course I do what?

by: thevanished

01-16-2012 @ 9:58pm
in reply to: kansasmennonite

Our immigration laws allow many to come here seeking a better life. The laws are just. You are seeking pardon (in the legal sense) for those who flout them. You are advocating legal injustice.


So, if your legal injustice is morally, than how can we possibly abide ANY enforceable border? Do you think it is possible? How So?

Is it in the Mennonite tradition to only ask questions without standing behind answers?

by: Jamie

01-13-2012 @ 3:53pm

Romney in reality is no different from Obama's policies if you study them carefully. In fact, speaking of how a Christian should treat Obama's foreign policy, the following clip is a must see for any Christian and should wake up anyone with a soul, especially Christians.

*18+ Graphic War images

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmubZ04j5YU

President Obama's New Era of Warfare: Predator Drones (and The Unheard Cries of the Innocent)

Obama's firing of predator drone missiles in Libya, Pakistan, and Yemen have led to as many as 50 civilian deaths for every target killed; targets including 16 year old Americans. 

Each missile is estimated to cost $1.41 million and 110 missiles were fired on the first day in Libya - a nation that has a population size equivalent to a U.S. city. 

Moreover, the U.S. president has outlined a strategic plan to increase war spending each year for the next decade that would involve increased use of these drones and more covert operations in the Middle East and Asia. Currently, up to 50% of U.S. federal taxes are spent in relation to wars, driving record debt ($16 trillion) for the next generation to work endlessly to pay off.

“It seems to be a fact of life that human beings cannot continue to do wrong without eventually reaching out for some thin rationalization to cloak an obvious wrong in the beautiful garments of righteousness.”
--Dr Martin Luther King Jr.

Additional Readings: 
http://bit.ly/opblH2
http://bit.ly/wrI775
http://bit.ly/yb3ORd
http://nyti.ms/s3La52
http://wapo.st/nQUWru
http://bit.ly/obMIvY
 

by: kansasmennonite

01-13-2012 @ 7:40pm
in reply to: Jamie

Jamie, I understand your arguments with wars, etc. Do you think Romney will change his rhetoric and actions if he did become president? Do you think we can bank on what he's preaching or is he just aligning himself with ultra conservatives for the vote? (I know-probably dumb question).

by: Jamie

01-13-2012 @ 10:28pm
in reply to: kansasmennonite

If you look at U.S. history since WW2, there's no reason to believe whether it's a Democrat or Republican war spending will decrease. For eg. despite the radical promises by Obama, his war spending is 200 billion dollars more than Bush's and recently he proposed increased war spending for the next decade (even though he spun it to try to please everyone). If you do the research, major weapons dealers fund heavily into politicians with Obama being on top. For example, General Atomics, one of the producers of these predator drones lobbied hard during Bush's and Obama's term; Obama now has dedicated the use of these predator drones as the new means of warfare for the next decade which can kill 50 civilians with each target. 

So whether it's Obama or Romney, get ready for a new era of increased covert wars whether it's the CIA killing people abroad as they've done in the past or paying off locals to overturn their government but now with increased use of drone strikes. This way, there'll be less protests among the U.S. people b/c there will be less U.S. troops (but more civilains dead without a notice). 

The U.S. economy is too entangled with establishing bases around the world.  And whether you believe his political ideology on decreased Empire or not, Dr. Paul has been preaching a non-intervention foreign policy for decades. 



JFK, Dr. MLK, Dr. Ron Paul on war:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTH60N22lQs

by: Jamie

01-13-2012 @ 10:34pm
in reply to: Jamie

And to be honest, I don't blame it on President Obama. With the internet now being used more than ever, knowledge and sifting through and being critical is at everyone's fingers

Thus, I blame the American people especially those who still blindly support Obama as though he's Caesar or the dear leader of North Korea, or pledge allegiance to the Democrats.  

 

 

by: kansasmennonite

01-13-2012 @ 7:37pm

German Mennonites have migrated to Mexico from Canada yrs ago to try to farm down there. Many today are tmeporary workers here in western Kansas. Gabby Giffords actually studied the Mennonites in Mexico for her fulbright scholarship (I don't know if I have the wording correct). There's an older gentlemen in my church that was born in Mexico but the family migrated here to Kansas. This part of Mexico also has a lot of Mormons in the same economic circumstances. My wife and I read some books on polygamy during the last 30 yrs or so and some were living in squalar (mainly the wives) in Mexico while the husbands traveled between Arizon, Utah, and Mexico. Romney doesn't consider his ancestors as immigrants since he's privilaged white.

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by: charliek2

01-13-2012 @ 9:38am
in reply to: thevanished

I don't read Tim asking for open borders. But this piece is relevant. It has to do with empathy. It has to do with economic considerations of hunger. It cannot be whiffed off quite so easily as the vanished whiffs it.

by: thevanished

01-12-2012 @ 11:20pm

The issue of immigration in America has nothing to do with religious persecution, so this piece is neither here nor there. We cannot have an open borders policy. We simply can't afford one, de jure or de facto.

by: thevanished

01-13-2012 @ 4:32pm
in reply to: charliek2

You either believe deporting illegal aliens is right, or you believe it's wrong. If that latter, you support open borders. Tim whiffs it off by shrouding the issue in the language of compassion.

 

 

by: kansasmennonite

01-13-2012 @ 7:38pm
in reply to: thevanished

What's the greatest and 2nd greatest commandment in the Bible?

by: kansasmennonite

01-13-2012 @ 7:40pm
in reply to: Jamie

Jamie, I understand your arguments with wars, etc. Do you think Romney will change his rhetoric and actions if he did become president? Do you think we can bank on what he's preaching or is he just aligning himself with ultra conservatives for the vote? (I know-probably dumb question).

by: Jamie

01-13-2012 @ 10:34pm
in reply to: Jamie

And to be honest, I don't blame it on President Obama. With the internet now being used more than ever, knowledge and sifting through and being critical is at everyone's fingers

Thus, I blame the American people especially those who still blindly support Obama as though he's Caesar or the dear leader of North Korea, or pledge allegiance to the Democrats.  

 

 

by: thevanished

01-16-2012 @ 9:58pm
in reply to: kansasmennonite

Our immigration laws allow many to come here seeking a better life. The laws are just. You are seeking pardon (in the legal sense) for those who flout them. You are advocating legal injustice.


So, if your legal injustice is morally, than how can we possibly abide ANY enforceable border? Do you think it is possible? How So?

Is it in the Mennonite tradition to only ask questions without standing behind answers?

by: kansasmennonite

01-13-2012 @ 7:37pm

German Mennonites have migrated to Mexico from Canada yrs ago to try to farm down there. Many today are tmeporary workers here in western Kansas. Gabby Giffords actually studied the Mennonites in Mexico for her fulbright scholarship (I don't know if I have the wording correct). There's an older gentlemen in my church that was born in Mexico but the family migrated here to Kansas. This part of Mexico also has a lot of Mormons in the same economic circumstances. My wife and I read some books on polygamy during the last 30 yrs or so and some were living in squalar (mainly the wives) in Mexico while the husbands traveled between Arizon, Utah, and Mexico. Romney doesn't consider his ancestors as immigrants since he's privilaged white.

by: kansasmennonite

01-14-2012 @ 3:24pm
in reply to: Sam

Loving our enemies does mean to have just laws in place. Are our immigration laws just? That's the question you totally blew off.

by: Sam

01-14-2012 @ 6:18pm
in reply to: kansasmennonite

My only problem with our immigration laws is that they aren't strict enough.  They seem plenty just to me.

by: kansasmennonite

01-14-2012 @ 9:45pm
in reply to: Sam

Yes, of course you do!!!

by: thevanished

01-12-2012 @ 11:20pm

The issue of immigration in America has nothing to do with religious persecution, so this piece is neither here nor there. We cannot have an open borders policy. We simply can't afford one, de jure or de facto.

by: Jamie

01-13-2012 @ 10:28pm
in reply to: kansasmennonite

If you look at U.S. history since WW2, there's no reason to believe whether it's a Democrat or Republican war spending will decrease. For eg. despite the radical promises by Obama, his war spending is 200 billion dollars more than Bush's and recently he proposed increased war spending for the next decade (even though he spun it to try to please everyone). If you do the research, major weapons dealers fund heavily into politicians with Obama being on top. For example, General Atomics, one of the producers of these predator drones lobbied hard during Bush's and Obama's term; Obama now has dedicated the use of these predator drones as the new means of warfare for the next decade which can kill 50 civilians with each target. 

So whether it's Obama or Romney, get ready for a new era of increased covert wars whether it's the CIA killing people abroad as they've done in the past or paying off locals to overturn their government but now with increased use of drone strikes. This way, there'll be less protests among the U.S. people b/c there will be less U.S. troops (but more civilains dead without a notice). 

The U.S. economy is too entangled with establishing bases around the world.  And whether you believe his political ideology on decreased Empire or not, Dr. Paul has been preaching a non-intervention foreign policy for decades. 



JFK, Dr. MLK, Dr. Ron Paul on war:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTH60N22lQs

by: Sam

01-14-2012 @ 10:34am
in reply to: kansasmennonite

Loving your neighbor as yourself doesn't mean that  a nation must have an open border policy or that believers must advocate for one.  Loving your neighbor also doesn't mean turning a blind eye when they break the law.

by: Sam

01-15-2012 @ 1:29am
in reply to: kansasmennonite

Of course I do what?

by: Jamie

01-13-2012 @ 3:53pm

Romney in reality is no different from Obama's policies if you study them carefully. In fact, speaking of how a Christian should treat Obama's foreign policy, the following clip is a must see for any Christian and should wake up anyone with a soul, especially Christians.

*18+ Graphic War images

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmubZ04j5YU

President Obama's New Era of Warfare: Predator Drones (and The Unheard Cries of the Innocent)

Obama's firing of predator drone missiles in Libya, Pakistan, and Yemen have led to as many as 50 civilian deaths for every target killed; targets including 16 year old Americans. 

Each missile is estimated to cost $1.41 million and 110 missiles were fired on the first day in Libya - a nation that has a population size equivalent to a U.S. city. 

Moreover, the U.S. president has outlined a strategic plan to increase war spending each year for the next decade that would involve increased use of these drones and more covert operations in the Middle East and Asia. Currently, up to 50% of U.S. federal taxes are spent in relation to wars, driving record debt ($16 trillion) for the next generation to work endlessly to pay off.

“It seems to be a fact of life that human beings cannot continue to do wrong without eventually reaching out for some thin rationalization to cloak an obvious wrong in the beautiful garments of righteousness.”
--Dr Martin Luther King Jr.

Additional Readings: 
http://bit.ly/opblH2
http://bit.ly/wrI775
http://bit.ly/yb3ORd
http://nyti.ms/s3La52
http://wapo.st/nQUWru
http://bit.ly/obMIvY